First Up - The Podcast, Wednesday 8 October

On today's First Up pod: we catch up with Gisborne local Jack Marshall, who's started a podcast on the politics of Tai Rawhiti; we find out about the ruler who was probably more committed to smoking than anyone else in history and we meet Jamie McKenzie - the Red Rocket - a young New Zealand born tennis star who's on the rise in world rankings. First Up - Voice of the Nathan.