First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 19 June

On today's First Up pod: the power moves and mind games have begun ahead of this weekend's Super Rugby final - our reporter Adam Burns talks to fans on the street in Christchurch; Labour MP Willie Jackson is here to catch up on the week in politics - sick leave, census and more and hangi master Rewi Spraggon is cooking a Matariki feast at Government House. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!