First Up - the Podcast, Thusday 8 May

On today's First Up pod: India has launched strikes on Pakistan - correspondent in Pakistan Anas Mallick has the latest from Islamabad; the government has rushed through changes to pay equity legislation, Carmel Sepuloni is calling for the Women's Minister to resign - Labour's deputy leader joins us; and we go to Wanaka, where Olivia Caldwell tells us about the local rugby club turning 125 years old. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!