Child and adolescent psychiatrist, Dr Hinemoa Elder, has returned with Ara: A Māori Guidebook of the Mind.
Ara is a quest guided by Hinengaro, Māori goddess of the mind, offering comfort for those trying to deal with the chaos of life.
She's the best-selling author of Aroha, Wawata, Waitohu and E Moko Dear Moko.
Dr Elder joins Mihi to explain how we can push through - and find the surface.
Dr Hinemoa Elder has returned with her latest book, Ara. Photo: Simon Young / Penguin Random House