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New Zealand author Sherryl Jordan's first published book was actually the 13th she'd written: Rocco.
She went on to publish a number of works for children and young adults, including The Juniper Game and The Raging Quiet.
In her later life she suffered from Occupational Overuse Syndrome and was told to stop writing - which she thought was akin to being asked not to breathe.
She was later diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
Before her death in December 2023, she'd sent in her final book to publisher Louise Russell at Bateman Books - one that documented her writing journey and the challenges and triumphs along the way.
She never knew it had been accepted for publication.
Fellow author Tessa Duder joins Kathryn to talk about Sherryl Jordan's remarkable writing ability and her last book, Descending Fire.